Thursday, August 5, 2010

Loose Ends

I wanted to wrap up some loose ends from part 1 and also give you all a little more insight into the characters.
Anti-heroes

A popular trope in CP literature and in SH serials in general is the anti-hero. In UL, it can be argued Sawyer and Juliana are antiheroes, in IVB Slate is an antihero.

In Veritas I think most of them fall under the type IV 'What the Hell' antihero. In my own head they are the types of protagonist you aren't supposed to like, they aren't good people and don't try to be. However the fact that you can relate to them is what gives them the hero part of it.

Alan

As you all know I tend to base my characters of real life events/persons and inspirations. Juliana is a mixture of inspiration from Jonestown/LG15, the IVB's are based off the Awareness Ribbons and foundations.

Well, Alan's story-- this whole section really-- is based on Patty Hearst. The girl who was trapped in a closet for 57 days and became part of a terrorist organization and is a convicted felon. She gets Stockholm Syndrome and I was kind of interested in this concept. SS is played with a little in UL but, I wanted to make a story of it. Hearst was ironically enough 19 at the time she was taken which I just discovered.

The original Veritas concept (before it even became a CP story) was about a girl who is taken and falls in love with her captor and then has to decide to turn him in or not but, I couldn't find enough story for that ... and Lile fleshed it out better.

Also, some people imagined early on that Alan was gay but he is a heterosexual.

The Dorys


Oh, the Dorys . . . they were originally very minor characters and the story was mostly Alan and Sara but, I felt like they added something. I had thought out this story and concept characters without even really acknowledging the "squickness" of Jean and Minnow's relationship.

However, it is relevant to know that Jean is gay. So, no there is nothing between he and Sara. Minnow is bisexual and she is also a nymphomaniac. That's why she comes on to Alan so strong. It's not the cybernetics that makes Alan attracted to Minnow its the drugs she gives him. The drugs are a mix of pain relief and libido boosters which is why they are always 'in the mood" after they take them.

Some people comment that Alan was using her sexually but, she was using him. When Alan spent so much time building the bomb with Sara she went back to spending so much time with Jean. The "sex scenes" in the serial even though they are from Alans POV are all about Minnow. Alan never describes feeling any type of pleasure during the sex because the sex is not about him, it's about her. That's not to say the loving feeling between Minnow and Alan weren't real because they do care for each other.

As far as Jean and Minnow's relationship goes, In my head they don't have sexual intercourse if anything they probably have sexual intracourse. Not only is Jean just very close to her, he doesn't like that Minnow sleeps with other men all the time. He'd rather she deal with her addiction with him than with strangers. Kind of the whole parents who perfer you drink in the house instead of in the street.

I think I made the squickiness worse.

!Disclaimer !*This is all concepts for a story that is about the gritty and unpleasent in life and is complete fiction. I can't abdicate this in real life. If Erik and I have kids we would NEVER let them act like the characters we write. They'd be on a short leash*

The Graces & Saint


I will say in the beginning Sara's whole name was Sara Grace but, somehow it didn't work so Grace is actually her (very ironic) last name.

As I think I've mentioned Sara was supposed to be a strong female, takes no BS character but, I also wanted her to be really likeable in a tough love kind of way. She is the model antihero because she is driven for vengeance against the big bad (the government) for killing her husband but, they way she does it is not exactly nice

As for Luce he was a main character from the start and in the original story he had a much bigger part. I imagine he will have a larger role in part 2.

As for Saint, he is asexual so, there is nothing between him and Sara either. They are just really close. Saint is an original concept based on something I saw I just can't remember what.

Foreshadowing and other plot devices


Mrs. Gray

Alan's mother's name, Ciele is supposed to be like the French words for sky. So, her name is Gray Skies. That's why Alan remembers her after sitting outside and watching the gray sky.

Character Evolution


Alan is slowly pulled into this crapsack world but,keeps his innocence and moral integrity for most of it. The real breaking point for him is in chapter 9 when Minnow is going into withdrawal and Alan sleeps with her against her consent. He has lost his grasp a little bit here and it officially makes him one of them. The only thing that pulls him out a little is Allison.

Phyrric Victory

I guess Lile and I are reading from the same book (trope page . . . ?) with this one. I always knew Minnow and Saint were going to die because Sara's win was going to be a Phyrric victory. When you win but, lose everything important to you in the mix.

Inspirations !

Here are some more picspirations :

Inspiration for Allison, the pale skinned brunette. I wanted to find a picture of Cosgrove not smiling and this was the best one. Plus, it has an innocence.

I saw this image and thought of Minnow Dory. I have no idea why.



Inspirtaion for Mrs. Gray. This is one of Hugh Hefners girlfriends I'm not sure which one, I saw her picture and thought she fit the image.

Part II

No, I don't have Part II (thought I'd rip that band-aid)

But, I am so excited about it--I have a lot planned out. I am even gearing up for part 3. There will only be 3 parts so, don't worry I'm not trying to write anything to epic.


Finally, Story Inspirations

I wanted to conclude this post with the quotes that inspired this whole story. I had no plot before but, I found this quotes and they became the theme.

"Transhumanism is about how technology will eventually help us overcome the problems that have, up until now, been endemic to human nature. Cyberpunk is about how technology won't."

Stephenls of RPG.Net, on the relation between transhumanism and cyberpunk


"Anything that can be done to a rat can be done to a human being. And we can do most anything to rats. This is a hard thing to think about, but it's the truth. It won't go away because we cover our eyes. THAT is cyberpunk."

— Bruce Sterling (one of William Gibsons writing partners)


A purpose of human life, no matter who is controlling it, is to love whoever is around to be loved.


http://www.quotationspage.com/icon_blank.gifKurt Vonnegut, Sirens of Titan


. . . the street finds its own uses for things

- Unatribbuted



and just a quote I found kind of funny was that Kurt Vunnegut smoked Pall Malls everyday and he referred to it as "classy way to commit suicide"



I will be back to you guys soon, better and more inspired than ever !

24 comments:

  1. Oh, this is interesting I was planning on using Stockholm Syndrome in HOF as the rational Lucie forces upon Clara, causing her to shoot Mr. Fierro. However, I thought it would be more erie if Lucie's ghost didn't speak. The rational was that Lucie would have known Patty Hearst Father being as they are both upper class New York Families.

    With that said I love these wrap up post

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  2. What ? Slate is an anti-hero ? I always considered him The Woobie becuase he is homeless and has father issues.

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  3. Is Phyrric Victory the only justification for Minnie's death ?

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  4. Oh, I thought Grace was just part of her name. The Graces and Saint sounds like some type of band. . .amirite

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  5. I wonder what a writing partner is ? Does Cobalt have those if so I can sign up to be JB's ? LOL

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  6. For some reason your disclaimer made me laugh, don't worry we all know it's fiction.

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  7. Can we expect anything new inbetween parts one and two ? Oh, hey that rhymes.

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  8. I'm sure every man would want a wife like Holly Madison !

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  9. Minnie seems like a complete foil from our prvious heroine, Juliana, in which the sexual prefence in the web serials is about male pleasure. I felt as if this was subtle (if not to much) and well done. I am also interested in seeing how things will set up for Jean.

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  10. Arguably, did Sara really lost anything that meant the world to her ? I mean did she really care about Saint and Minnie

    I like the orange and yellow you used in the bottom of the post, those would make great alternate wedding colors (I learnned the hard way, always have alternates.)

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  11. Squick ): , so Alan did rape her ? or was it that thing Sara was talking about saying it was more like stealing.

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  12. ^ hence the What The Hell Hero

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  13. geez, judging by those photographs it looks like thin and frail is the new "thing".

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  14. Does Asexual really mean no attraction ? Although I guess it doesn't really matter now.

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  15. The orginal Veritas concpet sounds alot like JB's new novel, except more tolerable. I am also curious about how long it will be between parts.

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  16. I think ripping the band aid off would be easier if you had put it first !

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  17. Is it wierd that I can't imagine SH using the word 'Crapsack' IRL ?

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  18. Three parts sounds pretty epic to me. Any hints as to what we can expect ?

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  19. How do you feel about the claim that people consider that Leonardo Dicaprio movie the best modern representation Cyberpunk ? Or do you prefer the classics.

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  20. In a very odd kind of way, I feel so sorry for Jean he was trying so hard to help his little sister. I hope he is in part two.

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  21. I consider Rhett the ultimate Anti-Hero from UL, I mean sure he did bad things but Juliana was somehow able to relate to him

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  22. So, when you say you don't have part II does that mean it's not written or it's not ready to be posted ?

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  23. Hmmm . . . was not expecting this many comments, oh well.

    Linda-- I totally got that from the HoF ending.

    Darcy_lover-- I guess YMMV but, he is pretty mean to everyone and selfish. He doesn't want his families help, he actually resents them for it.

    Maylights-- No, there are a few others, that will be revealed soon.

    Silver_Phoenix-- lol, I guess it does ! That's so funny !

    Marcia-- Well, in this case it means they wrote short stories together. Hmmm we should start something like that with Cobalt and the surrounding community . . .

    CranberriVodka-- I know I just wanted to make sure people didn't think I was advocating statutory rape or anything.

    Carleigh-- I considered a short story but, probably not.

    LOTRmom-- I have to admit she is pretty in a fake kind of way. Hope I look that good in my 30's.

    Natalie-- Thanks, hon ! I am most excited about writing about Jean.

    HappyApple-- She really did care about Saint, she just wont show it in front of Jean or Alan. A part of me thinks she cared about Minnow a lot too.

    LorrieC-- Well, Sara's comment (which is based on a true story of a judge who ruled a prostitutes rape as theft. I think he got disbarred for that) is off color and wrong. Alan did rape her.

    Trichelle- Exactly.

    Princess-- IDK, I think Leighton Meester has some meat on her bones and I think most of those images are shopped.

    Sundance_girl-- Yes, it means you don't have sexual attractions to others however, he is castrated so that explains that.

    Phinola- I wonder where he got the idea . . . just kidding-we authors occasionally get similar thought process. As for part 2, I wouldn't worry about refreshing this page for about 2 weeks at the least.

    Nillalatte-- oops, hope you enjoyed the suspense.

    Nurse Tina-- Oh, that's a trope hon !

    Aimee-- I'm not trying to be chessy but, expect the unexpected and then some.

    Vader900- I can agree with that. Antihero-check ! Angst-check ! Using technology for personal gain-check ! Cityscape settings-Check ! Japan-Check !--okay, I'll stop now.

    Petunia-- He is in part 2. That's all I will say.

    MakemeLala-- Well, I can see how you can argue this but Rhett is brainwashed--he has that groupthink thing where he will do whatever the group (Caine and other TLs tell him to). When that illusion is shattered he is pretty much a good guy from that point on.

    Tanya-- Both, really. It's coming along though

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  24. Oh, LOL. I thought Erik was rubbing off on you !

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