Happy Holidays !
Chapter 8 / HMLIS
Well, I feel kind of silly for that last post. Since that post I've kind of hit a stride and I can see the end in the (distant) horizon. I'm working on Chapter 13 (which isn't the last chapter) and I hope I can edit it into submission and sense-making when we get there. With all that in mind I think I won't post HMLIS until I finish up with Vice. Hopefully this means I can get most of HMLIS ready to go.
So, chapter 8 is going to start this wierd trend for the next few chapters where they are written in "real time". In that, there aren't a lot of time skips or jumps. I'm not sure why this happened, but it's something I noticed.
Third Person
I'm going back to answering some of the questions from the forum. Someone asked if I ever thought of making Vice third person. The answer is no. Vice/Veritas has always been Alan's story that he needed to tell. However, I did strongly consider writing HMLIS in 3rd person. I rewrote an entire chapter that way and realized....this just isn't working.
I wish me and third person could get along...maybe if Vice ever gets a sequel (which it may/may not) I think it could be third person. The more I write Vice the more I realized how limited I am in the world because everything has to be seen, experienced or explained to Alan.
Sundays
Okay, so I'm going to write briefly about this. Someone asked my favorite part of this serial and I have to say it was writing an extremely sympathetic character. Haley is kind of uncorruptable and I liked that about him. Also, despite the obvious purely physical aspect of some of their interactions, Haley and Maxwell love each other and they have this kind of forbidden love (prisoner, military officer). I don't do a lot of love stories, so it was nice. In fact, the fact that they love each other does come up in En Moritas, but we will get there...one way or the other.
Chapter 9 / Scavenger Hunt
So, let's move on to the second half of what was once a 10,000 word chapter. So I put a couple of things in here, let's see if you can spot them.
1. There are TWO literary refernces. Both are 20th century American novels.
2. Minnie gets to use a trope
East and West are at war and a draft has been put into effect. Alan's been offered a chance to go home and he's willing to do whatever Sara says to get there. Even going out to buy her two cases of wine.
CHAPTER 9
Playlist Here
-1-Stars by The XX ( this was in Blessed Hearts)
-2-Gorilla by Bruno Mars
-3-My Fault by Imagine Dragons
Ha, Erik see I'm not the only one writing Virgin Heros. . . okay Alan is only 19 but still . . .
ReplyDeleteAlso something in this chapter is oddly similar to a scene for Bellum . . .
*Hacks into Lile's computer to sneek a peek at Bellum*
Delete- I realized the virgin hero thing too, but didn't feel like adding fuel to Erik's fire.
Shawna may write it, but you seem to be into that sort of thing. ifyaknowwhatimean
DeleteOkay, SH I know yous said it and I even checked the Word Count but this chapter felt so short. I need full 10K chapters ASAP
ReplyDeleteSorry to dissapoint, but I'm actually splitting chapeters again. And it's not because I want to have more posts or anything, it's just pacing.
DeleteWhat was that about En Moritas ? ARE WE GETTING THERE ?
ReplyDeleteI think at some point, I'll post the only story I wrote for En Moritas. I mean it's a shortie at only about 1,000 words but I want to make sure it also fits into this new continuity.
DeleteYeah, when I saw Gorilla in the playlist I was like aw yeah !
ReplyDeleteIt still feels odd because Minnie is a minor, was this kind of lampshaded ?
DeleteYeah, in OUR world but not in theirs. Thank you so much SH for introducing commenters to tropes.
DeleteNo, Minnie is a minor in the Vice world. Alan even mentions it. I hope it's clear I'm not advocating statutory rape or anything. My characters are just...antiheros who don't care about the law.
DeleteAre the rings a Shy Cartel symbol ? Do thy have a picspiratin.
ReplyDeleteI bet Alan is totally going to get one of those before this chapters end.
DeleteYes, the rings are a symbol. Keep this in mind.
DeleteThere is no picspiration, but I'll see if I can find one.
Hey, so Sara's alcohol obsession is carried over from Veritas. New Rose Hotel Noir is such a pretty name. It should be a thing.
ReplyDeleteNew Rose Hotel is a name I stole from a William Gibson Cyberpunk short story. I added Noir because that sounded wine-y. Also it means black and the wine Sara drinks is really dark.
DeleteWhat ?! Did Alan fall off the roof ? I bet Blackbird is going to show up.
ReplyDeleteOMG, is it bad that all I think about is Kurt Hummel singing Blackbird
DeleteYeah, Alan fell of a roof.
DeleteEden- I actually had that version of Blackbird on my playlist for both Vice and HMLIS, but I'm not sure I'll ever have a chance to use it.
I know Alan and Minnie have had a lot of alone time, but I feel like he is more friendly with Jean and Sara than Minnie.
ReplyDeleteI can see this. But he trusts her more.
DeleteOh, I caught the Great Gatsby references. When Daisy tells her daughter all she can hope to be is a pretty little idoit. #paraphrase
ReplyDeleteYep! I tried to keep it out of context and broke it up a little so it wasn't SO obvious. I just always liked that line and kind of re-wrote Minnow's character around it.
DeleteI thought this was the trope
ReplyDelete“People who always do the right thing are always miserable assholes.”
Isn't that like Knight in Sour Armour or Sliding Scale Of Idealism Versus Cynicism. They are all so complex.
I didn't even notice that one. The complex tropes really trip me up too sometimes.
DeleteAm I the only one who thinks when SH says distant horizon = MORE CHAPTERS !!
ReplyDeleteI guess it means I know how it will end now. I'm thinking there will be 16-20 chapters total.
DeleteOff chapter and going back one, is Rayne's wife last name being Donelly a reference to the American Crime Family ?
ReplyDeleteYes. She has a backstory and I'm not sure if it will make the final cut, but if not I'll blog about it.
DeleteTITLE DROP ! I forgot that was a trope.
ReplyDeleteWait doesn't Alan have the title drop ?
DeleteDoes he ? I rewrote that scene so many times. I think he does have it because in the end I didn't think Vice was a word Minnow would use.
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ReplyDelete"Edit it into submission" - When SH turns into Shawna Gray
Wow, did not realize how that sounded. *blushes*
Delete(Maybe I should call my muse my inner goddess)
OIC, Jean's getting all the women whose BF and SO have joined the RLA.
ReplyDeletePretty much.
DeleteOkay, now I think something like The Shift is going to happen IN this series. All the men are going away to war not to mention there were proabaly more men at the border than women.
ReplyDeleteYou are right about more men being at the Border than women. As for the other part...IDK.
DeleteUm, is El going to show up more ? Can he have like a side novella or something I want to learn more.
ReplyDeleteHe's actually a very ambiguous character. I've never known much about him, but he may or may not show up again. He also has a picspiratin I'll share next post.
DeleteGlad you are giving Love Scenes a second chance ! Do we see more in the future ? Hmm HMLIS ?
ReplyDeleteNo, not really. I mean, not that I know of at this moment.
DeleteSpeaking of HMLIS can we get just one teeny tiney snippet ? Something to go on ??
ReplyDeleteSure. Maybe a future blog post. Not the next one, but the one after.
DeleteWow, Rayne seems super hard up on Sara. . . doesn't he realize he is married ?
ReplyDeleteRayne needs her. Why ? Find out in the next chapter ! Well, the chapter after that, actually.
DeleteI really wonder why Sara is heading East. I know it has something to do with Derek. I mean what kind of research ?
ReplyDeleteI know it has something to do with EtUn or why she let Morrisey live.
Delete*stares at Tabby* *STARES*
DeleteWait, does Rayne ever give Sara Luce's leg back ? What is he doing with it ?
ReplyDeleteNo, he destroyed it in front of him. Rayne has anger issues.
DeleteI actually kind of know what happened in the "meanwhile" while Sara and the crew were at the hit. I wanted to write it, but couldn't because I'm not ready to write Luce's or Rayne's POV and Alan wouldn't have been there.
noticed the title pages changed from Reboot to Vice does that mean anything ?
ReplyDeleteIt means I had an idiot moment (can I claim mommy brain ?). The rest of them are changed to Vice as well. It fits anyway because it was only called reboot when I didn't have a name.
DeleteI love going back and forth between Vertias and Vice and seeing how the characters have been adapted.
ReplyDeleteYeah, like having pics in the serial. I miss that.
DeleteYeah, like having pics in the serial. I miss that.
DeleteI mean, a lot of them are the same with a few exceptions. Luce is the most different. Rayne's wife actually appears onscreen and gets a name.
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